Thursday, August 30, 2007

LOF: The Beginning

Lord of the Flies ch.1-3
In the spirit of creating great discussion amongst my two classes, I want you to discuss with one another what you think of LOF so far? What are your initial impressions? What questions do you have? Can you help to answer one another's questions? Talk to me people!

60 comments:

amyw said...

My initial impressions about LOF are that it's starting out a bit slow. The first chapter isn't the most interesting, but it picks up speed a little bit going into the second and third chapters. This book follows a commonly used theme: people who survive a plane crash and must live on an island until they're rescued.

catem said...

So far the book seems a little odd in my opinion. I was a little confused when the little boy started talking about the snake in the forest. I think that he might have been forshadowing things to come in the book, but I don't know for sure. You already see the affect that the island is having on the boys, and quite frankly I'm not sure it is for the better. For instance when Jack didn't kill the pig, he suddenly became determined to kill and to get some meat. The boys are starting to act rather savage and in the end i think it could be their fatal mistake.

Ryad said...

I read this book in 6th grade for a project and I see it in a totally different way. I can see how much the island is effecting the boys. It cannot be easy to take care of yourself. I think that Ralph has a very different view of the island in the 3rd chaper than in the 1st. I agree with catem I don't think that the island is changeing them for the better.

josed said...

Well, before I took this class, I already knew a bit about the book. But, still, I find it bizzare that the kids were so quick to take to the whole snake thing. I mean, I think that kids know better. The kid who saw the beastie said that it turned into creepers in the day. I don't think that any kids of today's age would be so gullible. But I think Jack wants to kill the pig to prove himself; not really for the meat. He thinks that he needs to redeem himself, and that the only way to do that is to prove he can kill the pig. However, doing this may accustom him to bloodshed as a way to distinguish rank. The way they lit the mountain on fire was kind of savage. The way the little kids aren't working is sort of showing that these kids are acting completely on impulse, and quite frankly, that's suicide on an island where there are no guarantees of what conditions will look like. Still, these children have depended on other people: bigger people. So you can't blame them. Also, I just thought you guys should know what lord of the flies means (even though it's not really pertinent to the topic). Later in the book it has another meaning, but Lord of the Flies can be the normal translation of Ba'al Zebub. Otherwise known as Beezlebub, this is a demon. So, really I think this can be interpreted as being the bad side of people: their vicious tendencies

morganw said...

LOF was a very confusing book to me at first. It took me a long time to figure out what the 'scar' was, and I still don't quite understand exactly what happened. Were they in a plane leaving England when the airport was bombed so they were forced to continue on in a storm where their plane crashed on the island? I agree with amyw, it is starting out a little slow, but the action is picking up considerable pace.

The island is affecting the boys, but none of them, except Piggy, seem to realize the full extent of what has happened to them. Also, toward the end of the third chapter I noticed that they started to talk in shorter sentences, living out subjects and adjectives, going back to more simple speech. Was that just me, or did anybody else notice that as well?

ZachH said...

I agree with Amy and Morgan that the book is a little slow. I also had trouble figuring out what the scar is and I still don't quit understnad. You can tell the book is mainly about the boys sort of un-evolving back into survival mode. I have a feeling t hat some of the boys might turn on each other further on in the book.

Tylerg! said...

I trhink that the mindset of the boys changes from chapter one to chapter three. They start to see it as a big survival challenge as the chapters progress. I also agree with morgan, i noticed that they started to talk with smaller ideas in their speech

macm said...

Well, this is certainly an odd book; just looking at the cover with the giant fly on it can show you that. At first you think that they are electing a leader and getting along fine, but none really seem to care that much about being rescued, excepting Piggy. I agree with morganw on that one. Piggy's the only one who is worried about their survival, and he should be! Is everyone else on the island that naive? Although they do attempt to build a signal fire, they don't try very hard and it seems as though they hold on to the childish belief that Ralph's father will know where they are to come rescue them. What is he going to do, use his psychic sailor powers? Also,the whole snake dream seriously reminds me of Jurassic Park, and not in a good way. What else is hiding on that island? There's also a lot of tension between Ralph and Jack, and I don't like that both of them use either fear or harsh words to organize the kids. The only one with any sense is Piggy, but unfortunately he hasn't got the leadership skills to take charge. Weird, weird, weird.

stefo said...

This book started out okay, it’s a bit confusing, and a lot of things are left unexplained. I still don’t understand a ‘scar’ is as well. I think it maybe the coastline but I’m not sure. Ralph started out happy and excited to be on the island, but by the third chapter he starts to become bitter and angry especially when anyone mentions the beast. All of the boys it seems are becoming more animal like. I have also noticed that the creepers have made many appearances in the story and all of them creepy. Maybe both things are foreshadowing something sinister going on.

morgant said...

Well, this book starts out a little bit weird. I almost started to get bored in the first chapter. But, as it went on it got more interesting. I'm with what catem said. I'm confused about what the little boy meant when he said he saw a beastie. I thought it was kind of weird. I wasn't really following it. I also don't get the scar thing. I'm sure the story will get better in the middle, but right now I want it to pick up a little bit. I also think that Simon is an interesting character. At the end of chapter three, he goes into like a secluded space in the forest. I want to see what he will be like.

KatherineM said...

I agree with Amy W. The book is starting out slow, and it's a little confusing. I'm not exactly sure what a "scar" is. It's a shame that Piggy doesn't take charge, because he seems more interested in survival than the other boys. I'm really interested in seeing what happens next.

maddief said...

So far, I'm understanding a lot more about the plot than when I read the book in sixth grade. I agree with ryad, that something about the island is causing the boys' primordial instincts to take over. I think that Jack's hunters are most affected, while those building the huts are still trying to cling onto humanity. One thing that really got under my skin while reading the book was how everyone discriminated against Piggy. Ralph and Jack are probably strong and good-looking which is why they get respect from the others, while Piggy is weak and overweight and gets treated poorly. It seems like survival of the fittest is law of the island.

jhall said...

I agree with everyone who thinks that Lord of the Flies starts very slow, but I think that it is crucial in order to set up the mood and scene. For the people who don't understand what "the scar" is, it's the actual scene of where their plane crashed-the plane that stranded them on the island.
I believe that the shorter dialogue at the end of Chapter 3 (mentioned by many) is the author trying to make things more simpel so that the true action and intensity can be better and more realistically potrayed. (As opposed to long descriptive dialogue, which would take away and even ruin the action.)

DawnielleN said...

I agree with JHall. although the book does start out slow I still think it's important to know the characters and the setting first. I really like the book because I love books that make you think. This book definitely makes you think about why they are there and if anyone will come and get them. I didn't quite know what the scar was at first either but I figured it out as I read more into the book. As I read the book I feel really bad for Piggy. I think that if Ralph was a true leader he would stop acting childish and quit teasing Piggy. If they can't learn to live with each other I have a strong feeling that someone is going to turn against them.

Javonm said...

I really have become interested in the book. I think it is compelling the way these kids try to go about running their own island. Some of my inital impressions are to expect a lot of change throughout the book. I am expecting to see all diffferent kinds of change, inlcuding in the way tey run the island and in the personalities of people. I have already notcied Ralph beginning to change. He and Jack are power hungry it seems to me so they don't listen to what any lesser people (in their eyes) have to say. For example a big change is the way Ralph treated Piggy when he met him and how has began to change the way he treats him as living there continues. A couple questions I have are how long have they been on the island (Time is kind of hard to figure out)? ALso is anyone hvaing trouble connecting to the world or to text?

MollyS said...

I really like what Morgan W said about how they are talking in shorter sentences now. This is another way to say that they are changing in more ways than just the length of their hair. As I read I notice that I am not noticing connections as much as the evolution of the characters from proper English boys into savages. There are those short, almost scary sentences that refer to the new personalities of the characters. Such as when Jack lets the first pig go, Golding says, Next time there will be no mercy, .On the lines of what everyone was saying about Piggy being the only one who really wants to get off the island, I noted that when Ralph is referring to needing to get rescued, Jack does a double take Jack had to think for a moment before he could remember what rescue was.

One more thing, what are creepers??

ashleyf said...

I was thoroly untinterested in the first three chapters of this book. It's a great story line of peopel trapped on a deserted island but really, it's been done to death. there's Giligan's Island, The Cay, Survivor, Lost, Castaway.....they are getting more unorigianl and boring the more they make these. though, i expect the fact that there are no adults on the island and it is entirly run by these lost kids will make for a soemwhat more interesting story.
I agree with ryad and maddief how the island is taking over and they are expressing thier animal instincts. and because of this, i predict "survival of the fittest" will surely come into play.
Morganw, you said that they start to talk simpler which is extreamly observent. it makes sense. the way they live is becoming less like the polite English boys that they came as, so likly they are going to forget abotu havign sophisticated conversations anf more abotu "how are we going to survive today?"

BrianC said...

I to think that the book started out slow. It was even a bit confusing at first until you got that the kids were in a plane crash. I was kind-of disappointed when the author, William Golding, did not explain how they all fought the fire and what happened to the forest afterwards. I did like how Ralph was finally seeing that he did need help and that they needed the basics before thinking of being rescued and how the other children go off and play after working for 5 minuets, it’s very true in the real world too.

clarao said...

I thought at first that LOF would be a really strange story. That's what I had always heard, and it was hard to tell what was going on at first. I agree with most people that the book is starting out slow and I hope the pace will get a little faster later. After the first couple of pages it was a lot easier to tell what was going on and I don't find it that confusing anymore. Like some other people It took me a while to figure out what the scar was, but now I'm glad there aren't so many questions in the story as there were in the beginning.

SerenaL said...

I disagree that the book started out slow. To me it seemed like character development and giving the basic idea of the story. I was wondering what the time zone of the setting is and why it was only boys on the plane. My brother read the book last year and thought that there was a bomb threat and they were evacuating the boys. That led me to think that it was during a war or something, because they said the plane was shot down.

Cate M was talking about Jack not killing the pig at first and then being determined to kill it and I think I know why. Jack didn’t want the other boys to think he was a wimp, not wanting to see all of the blood. Although he was hesitant, he wanted to keep up his reputation of being strong, and a provider for the boys. I agree that the boys’ views change from the first to the third chapter. They haven’t been getting sufficient amounts of protein and their systems are probably messed up. The boys who had taken leadership seem to have changed more, because they are the ones who aren’t playing, they are trying to make the island inhabitable for them. Hmm, I know I had a point to this but I lost it. I think what I’m getting at is that a hidden personality is pulled out of you in times of stress or loss. Those that are usually happy may be grumpy and protective of their ideas.

mattf said...

I agree that this book started out a little slow. However it picked up the pace in the second and third chapters. I was shocked that everyone seemed to pick on Piggy. He seems the smartest and has the best interest in mind... survival. Everyone else is concerned about being rescued. In reality, they probably won't be found, maybe not even searched for. If the dropping of the atomic bomb was a reference to Hiroshima or Nagasaki, then my guess is the Queen's fleet is a little to busy to search for a downed passenger plane. They may even think it made a water landing and sunk.

mattf said...

Does anyone know what the "scar" is? Is it the ravine on the island?

MollyS said...

Matt F, the scar is the big gash in the island that the plane left when it crashed. I expect that it is just a big huge hole of sorts

maddisonm said...

My intial reations to LOF is that it is very detailed with respect to characterization and setting. I agree with jhall though that this detail is crucial to setup chapters in the future. It seems like the author introduces a lot of sybmols and foreshadowing that will be important in the future. It seems like there are four different character types developing. Ralph, Piggy, Jack and Simon all represent different types of people in our world. This seems like there will be interesting twists on the everyday survival story.

stephenf said...

I feel the book is not very well written because of the writing style that the author is attempting though I am not really sure what that is? The book does seem a litle slow and confusing between the dialogue and thoughts that the boys are having. one thing i do like is the fact that it has become quite an adventure as the boys struggle for power and survival on the Island. But I do feel very sorry for Piggy because no one listens to or really cares about him.

stephenf said...

In answer to Matt F's comment i think the scar is where the plane crached and cut a "scar" into the island.

Louiseb said...

I also agree with many people that this book is really biginning slowly. But so far in this book i can see that many reality shows tie into this book in that people are thrown out on their own. I agree with stef o that there may be some forshadowing as to something sinister that is going to happed. I also think that is was a good point that they are starting to talk in simpler sentences and i wonder if they might just quit talking all together by the end of the book

Liap said...

I wasn't really that interested when I started reading this, but it did become more interesting now that the boys are beginning to change. This makes me begin to wonder about how the boys will meet their end. I agree with Morganw, I thought it was a little confusing at the beginning but it cleared up as we got more details. I also got the first impression that having a group of people stranded on an island isn’t too original, but the idea that it is only young boys easily makes it more interesting. The fact that the voted on a “chief” out of a group of boys that they didn’t even know anything about makes it slightly obvious to me that they will fail in the end. I think that the fact that they are all boys contributes to their failure also, because they all want to compete with one another, and that might drive them to do more harm than good. Mollys brings up a good question: what are creepers?

alexf said...

Well, my initial impression of this book is HUH???? I think that it is confusing because it doesn’t give as much detail in important spots, yet it gives too much detail in less important areas. Although I can understand the general concept of the book, I think that it requires lots of time and devotion (at least on my part). I do know that the scar is the strip of land where the “tube of kids” fell and streaked across the forest, but I am very confused as to what the heck a creeper is! Could it be some kind of bug? But what are the “nets” that it makes?

I can see how the character development is extremely important in the plot. We get to know the characters and how they act when others are not around. I think that Ralph is a good leader, but favors Jack way too much. He can also be a little too harsh. I can see why Jack doesn’t like Piggy. After all, there is always that annoying person that whines and complains about the leadership, yet I do think that Piggy has good points and the group should at least hear him out. I don’t think that the author has explained too much about Simon yet, but I can see him as being the shy kid that follows and is very close to the leader.

I’m very sorry to say this, but so far I do not like the book at all! I barely understand it and it is taking me forever to annotate! AHHHH! Oh well!

hannahl said...

I agree with ryad that this book takes on a much different conotation upon second reading. I also agree with dawniellen that even if it is slow, it does make you think. Oh, and thanks mollys for answering the question about the scar. I was wondering the same thing.
Personally, I think there are a lot of modern socio-political implications in this book. For instance, the way in which Ralph rose to the top and became a leader, and then made everyone else do the work while he played around. This reminds me of big businessmen in the American economy. They rise to the top (or are born into leadership) and they take advantage of workers for personal gain. Also, the facetiousness of the boys reminds me of big corporations. The boys made alliances, and then got competitive and started to go against each other. They did this for personal gain for fear of losing power and because they thought they were surely right. Just like in big corporations.
Does anyone else see metaphors like these in the book?

amandah said...

Lord of the Flies starts off slow and it was hard for me to get into, but as the book continued into chapters two and three it became more interesting. The beginning of the book confused me a little. I think that the boys made a mistake in voting for a chief when they didn't even know each other and they didn't know who would make a good leader or who wouldn't. I think the boys also made a mistake by being lazy and not contributing in helping around the island and building shelters and keeping the fire going. Some of the vocabulary used in the book confused me. What is a scar and what are creepers?

melissaz said...

I actually think that the first chapter wasnt slow at all. I think that the William Golding has done a pretty good job of setting the scene and bring all these real problems to the plot. I still think it was a little confusing at how he strted it just right kind- of in the middle, it left me with alot of questions. Some of the questions I think are fairly important to the plot are, how can only boys be the people who survived,and, I would be so sad to think of the people that had died in the crash, I'm sure that most of these kids traveled with a family member who died in the crash, why arent they upset or even thinking about it at all, espescially the little ones(12 year-olds are not fit to raise 6 year-olds, even themselves)? you can kind of tell by the end of the 3rd chapter that their fantasy of a fun, parent free island is shot and that the rest will probably be full of problems. I don't love the book but i don't dislike it either, i cant't tell yet.

ryanm said...

I dont think the book starts off slow. Its improtant to build up the characters. I kind of fell bad for piggy because he is rather ignored by the other boys, but he doesn't hold much power so the older boys dont pay attention to him. hes kind of like an annoying little sibling who wants a say in everything. I think the holding the conch rule is silly although it does bring a sense of order it also doesnt allow constructive argument. i think LOF will be a very great book to read and disect.

nicolek said...

My intitial impression of Lord of the Flies is that it is a survival of the fittest kind of book. it started out a little slow and got a little confusing with all the new and characters but i think that's just becuase it is setting up the book and foreshadowing about whats to come. It will probably pick up speed later on.

maddieh said...

My initial impressions are very mixed. I know where the story is going because I have seen the movie but the book is taking a while to get there. The people in the book are annoying me though because they are so calm. It just seems unrealistic that they wouldn't be freaking out that they are stranded on a island with no adults. I also wonder what it would be like if there were girls on the island with them.

elisabethc said...

Lord of the Flies is interesting, as in the fact that it holds your attention but there are some unasnwered questions in the book. I have some idea of what is going on but a lot of the time some of the parts confuse me. For example, there are weird transitions in between the chapters. It skips between every couple of day or something of the sort. It does not follow up directly where the other chapter ended. I am also very confused with the whole "snake" thing that has been going on. I don't exactly get what the whole point of it is. First, the little boy brings it up and says that it comes and gest them while they sleep and then all the little boys start screaming that the snakes are coming when the fire is burning. I don't exactly get it. I also don't get what the scar is. Can someone maybe help me out a little?

As for answering others questions... amandah, the creepers are huge vines that grow throughout the forest and are pretty much everywhere.

One last thing. I definately agree with alexf answer about how the book does not make any sense to her. I am definately on the same page. It is confusing how the book starts right in the middle, after the crash has taken place. There is not much background information on what is going on. At this point I don't like or dislike the book, even though it is extreemly confusing.

alyssas said...

I agree with everyone who said that LOF starts off slowly but it picks up in the third chapter. All of the new information and charaters made it a little hard to completely understand the story line. It is pretty obvious that it is a Survivor- like plot but I find it a little far- fetched that no adults survived the crash and there are no girls with them and all of the other adults who knew about the flight died in the dropping of an atom bomb. O yeah, was the atom bomb a reference to WW2 or is it fictional? I also have the same question as some other people, what are creepers?

It did take me a while to read because I had to keep going back and looking up the names of the characters. But I think the book will pick up later and hopefully some more foreshadowing will become apparent.

mitchl. said...

I can really relate to everyone who said that this book started out slow, I was also a little confused about the new characters. I also can relate to how so many other T.V. shows do these surviving on your own kind of thing. Next, i find it very strange that all the adults die, and the only people that survive are english school boys, but maybe they will come across some other people later in the book.

maddisonm said...

What do you all think about annotating? How much do you all annotate? Do you annotate while read or after you read? What do you think works best!?!?

kristinah said...

I agree with everyone on the fact that the book starts out slow and is a bit confusing but I am enjoying the fact that the author uses vivid language because it makes me think a little more about what he is trying to describe and it gets me more interested in the novel. I also agree with catem on the fact that the boys are definitely starting to act savage like. But you have to concider the fact that they are stranded on an island and they have no influence from a person of authority that is going to make them act or speak properly. If I was an eight year old boy stranded on an island without parents able to run wild and free well guess what I am sure I would. I also think that josed had a good point of the fact that Jacnk might want to kill the pig to prove himself instead of just to get some meat, and thanks for the info on the meaning of LOF it is very helpful. I think that there is a connection or symbolism between Piggies glasses and the bad side of people, because every time something mean is said or done piggies glasses flash or fog up or they make some sort of statement about the glasses. I think that piggy has great potential as a leader he just needs to develope more confidence and leadership abilities because he is the only one there that seams to be concerned about geting rescued. I am not totally sure that I am anotating right but I think it is ok because I am making all of the recomended connections but I just don't sound as suffisticated as the examples.

KekeK said...

I'm really pulling for Piggy at this point. I think he's such a strong charecter and keeps getting bashed down by his peers.
My impressions at first changed alot over the fisrt few chapters of the book. For example, PIggy bugged me alot and I really liked Ralph. Now, Ralph is really on my nerves and Piggy's my favorite charecter. The turns of the story seem to be getting more intense and every time a turn finishes, my veiws of the boys on the island are flipped.
I'm anxious to learn if they get off the island safe or not.

alexd said...

I agree with a lot of people that the book is starting off kind of slow. However, I think it is interesting to see the change in the boys mindsets as they stay on the island longer and longer. I think that as the book progresses the boys attitude towards each other will become more aggressive and they will go in into more of a survival mode.

mitchs said...

I'm going to have to agree with most of the other people and say that this book is starting off pretty slow. And if no one has mentioned this yet, i think that the "scar" is the place where their plane crashed. I still don't understand what the creepers are though. It's surprising to see how fast they change from school boys to a tribe of boys just trying to survive. They are going to have to start listening to Piggy eventually, he's right but they are just ignoring him.

kristenw said...

For me in the beginning of LOF it was very confusing because i didn't understand what was happening. The author of this book sometimes uses a wierd way with words. I noticed some other people wondered about the scar and the creepers, I wondered that too. I did figure that the scar is where the plane crashed in the forest. I agree with keke k on the piggy thing, I think it's so sad that everyone laughs at him all the time. Over all I agree with most other people about this book starting out really slow.

whitneys said...

This is my second time reading Lord of the Flies and I as i am reading, it seems as if this is the first time that i am reading it. There is so much detail and information given in almost every paragraph that helps to foreshadow what is going to happen in the future. The most difficult part about reading it so far is that it is sometimes hard to understand who is talking or what the other means when he is describing a situation. I find myself going back and rereading quite a few sections just to get what the author is saying. But I really like this book because you have to really think the get it and there is so much meaning lying beneath the surface,

mattw said...

I think you could find alot of symbolism in this book with very little effort. It was really easy to make a connection right away to "Lost" (the tv show), because of the airplane crash on an island. It is a little odd how they survived and didn't find any adults, but they might find some later. The guy who I think is called Ralph seemed like he was trying really hard to act cool, and it seemed like he already knew were alot of things were; like the lagoon. I haven't gotten very far, so I might be missing something.

kristinah said...

I find that I am able to make a lot of easy connections between the book and television shows, movies, or books. Also, annotating this book definitelly gets me more engaged and helps me to think about the symobolism more frequently.

Jim Gates said...

That's it. Now I'm going to have to read this one again. I read it when I was in high school - many years ago. Your discussion of the book so far has prompted me to put it on my "To Read" list. I remember bits and pieces of it, and your discussions have renewed my interest.

I'll be reading it along with you.

Selenam said...

In the beginning of the book, I noticed that the characters aren't addressed by name until they've introduced themselves. Also, Jack seems controlling and he wants to kill the pig and prove himself way too much. I agree with ryanm that Piggy is ignored too much by the other boys and he could be a great force in keeping the kids together if they respected him more.

josed said...

I think Hannahl's comment on a socio-political reflection is very deep, and also very correct, because the author believed that humans were at their cores, evil. And in a "fighting the system" book, who's the bad guy? the system, of course. But it's the other way around: everyone else plays and he got stuck building a shelter. But the metaphor I saw in the book was that the choir boys were soldiers (their description reminded me of the German SS, but it's probably just me): the author was a soldier at one point in his life. I'm having a bit of trouble annotating, can anyone help me??

ParkerH said...

I read this book in 6th grade, like Rya. I thought it was weird then and I still do. The Beezlebub thing that Jose talked about was pretty interesting. It makes sense in the context of the book later on. It kinda ruins it when I already know the ending though...

beckyg said...

Like many other people have said, I think the beggining of this book is very confusing because it seems to jump right into the middle of the action. I also think the author should explain what things like "creepers" are rather than just using a strange word that nobody has ever heard of. So far it seems like a pretty weird book with the whole snake issue and everything, but I think it might end up a good book. I think Ralph is a good leader, but he and Jack seem to be a bit to high and mighty. I agree with everyone else who said things abbout Piggy, and I think they should trust him a bit more on things and here what he has to say, because so far he has had some pretty good ideas. I also wonder how they will keep track of all the children, and take care of eachother when I am guessing, none of them have had to fend for themselves in this way before. I also wonder why Jack has a knife. If this is a school trip I didn't think that carrying a knife would be allowed. I mean mention any school related event where knives (knives like Jack has, not those flimsy little plastic table knives that you can barely cut food with, let alone get food from the wild with) were allowed! Finally, I wonder how none of them are REALLY hungry. I find it hard to go a few hours without food just sitting in a classroom, let alone doing hard work, and they have gone multiple days without food! How does that work?

aaronw said...

Sorry my comment never posted.. so this is what i said before...
I think that everyone believes it's confusing at the beginning because it starts after the plane has crashed. However, once Ralph brings order to the group, we can see who the Peyton Manning of this group will be...
In the third chapter when Jack and Ralph get in the argument, i still think that it'll lead to, like, bad blood, between those two. And when two leaders disagree, it can lead down the wrong path. I like what Jose said about the choir boys being like the SS, because even though they have a head honcho (Ralph) they still will take in direct orders from Jack. Kinda like how the SS didn't listen to Hitler a whole lot... thank God for that! Hehe but anyways ya... I still need to read a little bit more before i can decide if Jack and Ralph's bad relationship will take a turn for the worse... btw whos jim gates?

nilec said...

So far i have enjoyed reading LOF. its a pretty interesting book and draws my attention. So far i was confused on what creepers and the scar is but its clear now. I think the part were the three boys hike to the top of the mountain shows how they are bonding and i think this group of boys will start out good then go crazy.

meganu said...

Sorry my post is so late, I didn't get a copy of the book until thursday night and it has taken me awhile to read it. So far I don't really like LOF. The first chapter is really slow and I don't really like the author's style of writing. I figured out what the creepers were but I am still really confused about what the author's talking about when he says "the scar".

markg said...

LOF is a crazy book. I dont understand it that much. Willaim Goldings writing style is really different than what i am used to. It is almost as if he is trying to make it confusing. After discussing in class i now know what the scar and the creepers are. It is deffinatly something that is good to know when reading such a confusing book.

NickB said...

I read this book last year but i think it's interesting this time through because i'm getting a lot out of it. I do have to agree it is a sort of weird/scary/odd book, but thats what i love about it

Laurenc said...

So far I am finding LOF to be a strange yet intruiging book. I don't think it is very logical and I doubt all the children would have just walked away from a plane crash like that just feeling fine and I don't think they will be able to survive on the island for long. However, i do realize thats its a fiction book and I am looking foward to seeing how the boys react to eachother as their isolation continues

Sarcasticinsaneteenager said...

So far the book is slow... which is to be expected. The climax normally comes toward the middle of the book. It's kinda slow but it should, I assume, get a lot juicier.

katyj said...

Lord of the flies is a very strange book. The characters are especailly wierd; I mean who stands on thier head when they're happy? And Jack is OBSESSED with catching a stupid pig. WIERD, i tell you, very strange!!!!