tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post9206155293698772058..comments2023-11-05T01:15:43.435-07:00Comments on Smith 9H 07-08: Macbeth Act 3 questionsanneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00573450327737964454noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-4075509856679662932007-09-27T09:19:00.000-06:002007-09-27T09:19:00.000-06:00EVERYONE READ THIS IF YOUR CONFUSED ABOUT MACDUFF-...EVERYONE READ THIS IF YOUR CONFUSED ABOUT MACDUFF-<BR/>ok I found this in the notes in our book on the opposite page pg 112 Macduff wants the king to persuade the people of Northumberland (an English country near Scottland) and their earl, Siward, to join Malcolm's cause, b/c he has the right to the trone but Macbeth disrupted the order of things when he took it. With their help Malcolm may be able to restore order and peace in Scottland. <BR/>This should answer any questions!!!kristinahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10837140646515837521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-50669225200320483342007-09-27T09:04:00.000-06:002007-09-27T09:04:00.000-06:00Macbeth didn't want Banquo around because he could...Macbeth didn't want Banquo around because he could produce more heirs to the throne if he didn't kill him along with fleane the only current heir to the throne. It was not only because he was suspicious of macbeth commiting the murder as an act of treason, it was because of the possiblity of the prophesy for banquos sons to become kings to come true. Macbeth is willing, at this point, to do anything to stay king. He feels as if his crown is fruitless and he has killed duncan for banquos sons and he wants to make sure that he can keep his throne that he has now murdered for. <BR/><BR/>- I am still confused about what Macduff is doing, can anyone clarrify before the quiz, I know ms.smith tried to explain it but I missed some of it. Thanks! I hope my explanation helped a little. <BR/><BR/>-Also, being a man seems to relate greatly to bravery and fear. If fear is present then that person is not a man. <BR/><BR/>-Also, I think that the serpent imagery relates to anything that can harm macbeth or his possition. Because he refers to banquo and fleance as serpants because he and his son could take the throne away from him.kristinahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10837140646515837521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-43505093931868938722007-09-26T21:36:00.000-06:002007-09-26T21:36:00.000-06:00question: why was Macbeth so eager to make sure th...question: why was Macbeth so eager to make sure that Banquo and Fleance was dead if no one would becoem king until he dies. Then i thought that Fleance might try and kill him to become king, but it doesnt seem that he has those intentions at all.<BR/><BR/>But i suppose that Mabeth didnt want Banquo areound because he knew of the prophecy, but really, murdering someone because they know a secret of yours? Even though it was the secret that he kille the king.....i jsut dotn know, any thoughts?ashleyfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00453753498366493723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-34087454506303120792007-09-26T21:31:00.000-06:002007-09-26T21:31:00.000-06:00Ashleyf- I think that Macbeth sort of persuaded t...Ashleyf- I think that Macbeth sort of persuaded them to murder Banquo. He was trying to almost have them blame their fears and all misfortunes or bad experiences on Banquo. Banquo was almost the person who was blamed for everything. I hope this helps! Morgant, I agree with your comments. I would have answered the same way. I can’t think of any questions that I have that haven’t been answered already.chelseashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05765067948147092212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-15934175360686078292007-09-26T19:21:00.000-06:002007-09-26T19:21:00.000-06:00Okay, guys. This will be a long comment. These are...Okay, guys. This will be a long comment. These are some answers to kristinah's questions:<BR/><BR/>Scene one:<BR/>-Banquo has not told Macbeth that he thinks he killed Duncan for the kingship. He did say that quote before Macbeth entered.<BR/><BR/>-I think that it is a mixture of all of those things. It kind of depends on the context of the sentence.<BR/><BR/>-Macbeth wants to know where Banquo will be so he can plot his murder accordingly. He wants to make sure Banquo isn't going to someone to say his suspicions. Macbeth doesn't know that Banquo has suspicions, but he needs to be careful.<BR/><BR/>-That tends to be human nature. <BR/><BR/>-You are 100% right, but Macbeth's traits are what makes a tragic hero. He tries to control his own fate, and as a result, he ruins his life pretty much.<BR/><BR/>-Banquo didn't. Macbeth is just trying to persuade the murderers to kill Banquo. Remember, Macbeth also used to be the murderer's enemy. He just wants the murder to actually take place, and he wants the murderers to feel like they are killing for a reason.<BR/><BR/>scene two:<BR/>-I'm sure they were like that before, but when Lady Macbeth suggested to murder Duncan, Macbeth was very unsure. Plus, I think Macbeth knows that Lady Macbeth plays an important role in the murders. (like she fainted at Duncan's murder, and we have yet to find out how she reacts to Banquo's murder)<BR/><BR/>scene four:<BR/>-Macbeth wants to go see the witches again because he needs answers. He wants to know his future. Will he get caught? Will he reign for a really long time? Will he die anytime soon? Those sort of questions he needs answers. Thats why Hecate says that she will boost his confidence. I hope that makes sense.<BR/><BR/>scene six:<BR/>-Macbeth isn't angry at Macduff, but he is suspicious. He keeps sending for him, but Macduff says no. He needs to finish off Macduff to feel secure. Maduff hasn't done anything wrong except that he has suspicions of Macbeth. Macduff is trying to get Macbeth's enemies to go against Macbeth and get him off the throne. That's about Macduff.<BR/><BR/>I hope those comments answer some of your questions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-35527862678863008602007-09-26T18:07:00.000-06:002007-09-26T18:07:00.000-06:00AshleyF- Yeah I had that question too. I think the...AshleyF- Yeah I had that question too. I think they were just too eager to blame someone else for all their problems so they didn't really care who was the scapegoat. But I still wonder what was so bad in their lives?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-30051061445973587472007-09-26T17:42:00.000-06:002007-09-26T17:42:00.000-06:00maddisonm and alexf, I THINK, if I caught what she...maddisonm and alexf, I THINK, if I caught what she was saying right, that she was meaning that the people sha had mentioned that have always kind of had a tainted view of Macbeth, are catching on to the murders and are going to kind-of form an alliance against Macbeth to get him out of power. I hope this helps but I'm not totally sure if this is right but I think so.<BR/><BR/>maddisonm, that is a great point about how the sons are the one's living and their fathers have died. I never thought of that and it is a very interesting approach.<BR/><BR/>kristinah, I'm going to try and answer a few of your questions.<BR/>Scene1- I think the reason that Macbeth is so conserned about Banquo's where abouts, because, as Ms.Smith said the other day, if he was plotting to kill him, he need to know as much as possiable.<BR/>And I don't think Banquo made the lives of the murderer's bad, but he is blaming Banquo for the things that Macbeth himself has done. He needs to have some prop to get the murderer's to go through with the plan and make them feel inferior, by not stoping a man who has caused a lot of problems for them and questioning their manliness.<BR/>And yes, Macbeth is definitally learning many "tricks" from his wife to get what he wants. Because it worked for her, why not work for them. <BR/>Scene2- I think you are right about the change in their relationship. I wasn't sure before but that was a great point. I think because Macbeth is falling into the track of evil, he is becoming more and more like his wife. Making things less intense. And also, it seems like now Macbeth is taking the reins, so that could also make im more comfortable.<BR/>And I had the same connection between Adam and Eve as you did, that was the first thing I though of when I herd that quote.<BR/><BR/>alyssas, I agree that I don't think that Fleance really has a motive to kill Macbeth. He doesn't know that Macbeth was behind the murder of his father and he doesn't know of the prophesy either. I just don't think he knows enough to have any thought of killing Macbeth.<BR/><BR/>morganw, I agree that it is hard to picture any witch good. I think she may seem good right know but I think that her intensions are mainly for her purpose, not anyone elses.<BR/><BR/>hannahl, I think the reason that Macbeth doesn't stop his killing streak is because, he has so stained his heart and has done so much to get to the point he is at, that he just could't stop where he is at to leave all that he is done to fate, he just has turned his heart so much I think he knows that it is to hard to turn back.<BR/><BR/>amyw, I like your analogy about his killing spree to a lie, that is so true!<BR/><BR/>ashleyf, That is a great point, I don't think that Macbeth really gave them a strong statement and they were just sucked into it. I think that we could compare the murderers' actions to Macbeth's. Macbeth hasn't really had a very good reason for killng who he has, although it is a better reason then the murderers, but he just gets an idea and runs with it without thinking. The murderers have killed probably many times that I don't hink that they use their instincts. They have cut off the thinking part and as soon as anyone questions their manliness, they are ready to jump on board.<BR/><BR/>I don't have really any different questions but if I think of 1 I will ask later!<BR/><BR/>The men in this book are too easily persuaded, it's the woman that seems to have the backbone.melissazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884058721407885822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-76794773344889628752007-09-26T17:06:00.000-06:002007-09-26T17:06:00.000-06:00josed---I don't think Macbeth will send the murder...josed---I don't think Macbeth will send the murderers to kill Macduff because so far Macduff doesn't seem to have a very big role in this play. He's just a Scottish noble, so what reason would Macbeth have to want him killed?amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-27119034204572605712007-09-26T15:52:00.000-06:002007-09-26T15:52:00.000-06:00Ok, thx guys!Ok, thx guys!josedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169364934182849611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-19635562036336965942007-09-25T22:21:00.000-06:002007-09-25T22:21:00.000-06:00Josed, i think Macbeth trusts the witches because ...Josed, i think Macbeth trusts the witches because even though they led him to commit these terrible crimes, they were still correct on the prochecy. Furthermore, at this point, he is so far into this murdering that the only way out, is the way he got in, the witches. <BR/><BR/>question: when Macbeth convinces the servents to murder Banquo and told them that Banquo was the cause for all thier misfortune, what gives the servents reason that he is to blame. Did Macbeth give them any legitament reasons as to why Banquo was causing all this for the servents?ashleyfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00453753498366493723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-11200678058363442572007-09-25T20:58:00.000-06:002007-09-25T20:58:00.000-06:00Amy W.- I totally agree with you about Macbeth kno...Amy W.- I totally agree with you about Macbeth knowing that he is doing wrong, but if nobody does anything about it, it will just get worse. He even recognizes it and talks about it throughout the play.Alyssa S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/17614265323422087457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-76249004314161092452007-09-25T18:14:00.000-06:002007-09-25T18:14:00.000-06:00josed- I'm not sure if this is 100% right, but Mac...josed- I'm not sure if this is 100% right, but Macbeth doesn't think that the witches led him to murder. He just thinks that he can get the future out of them. Like, in Act IV, Macbeth will go to see the witches again for more information about the future. They didn't necessarily lead him to that murder. Lady Macbeth certainly did though. Does that help a little bit?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-49809773794659511042007-09-25T17:04:00.000-06:002007-09-25T17:04:00.000-06:00I'm not disagreeing with anyone who says Macbeth i...I'm not disagreeing with anyone who says Macbeth is less of a man, but Lady Macbeth says that because she is trying to taunt him out of the hallucination. Actually, amyw, Macbeth goes all evil I think by the end of Act three, so thats not good. Do you guys think Macbeth will send the murderers out on MacDuff? Why does Macbeth say the magpies made the murder public in Scene 4 After the guests leave? Why would Macbeth trust the witches if they led him to murder?josedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03169364934182849611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-27607839882279650822007-09-25T14:03:00.000-06:002007-09-25T14:03:00.000-06:00I think Macbeth knows what he's doing is wrong bec...I think Macbeth knows what he's doing is wrong because he seems to have incredible guilt over the murders, he just can't stop: blood leads to more blood. He feels guilty and recognizes his wrongdoing, which is actually a sign that he's not totally evil yet. But if he keeps on this path and no one finds him out or tries to stop him, he could become more evil and start feeling less guilty and thinking that what he's doing is right since it will benefit him. Just my thoughts!amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-73273528290833097142007-09-25T13:59:00.000-06:002007-09-25T13:59:00.000-06:00Macbeth keeps killing people because he just canno...Macbeth keeps killing people because he just cannot stop. He has become really evil; so evil that he makes his wife look pleasant. Once he started killing, he just couldn't stop because it all just turned into one long chain of paranoia and killing (he was paranoid so he keeps killing people to make sure he'll be able to keep the throne). I guess for him killing is like lying: once you start a lie, it's difficult to stop because you have to keep lying to cover the other lies up. In his case, he must keep killing to secure the throne and because of his own paranoia. Hope this makes sense to all of you who asked this!amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-14568267253172477582007-09-25T12:39:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:39:00.000-06:00leslie, what you said about blood leading to more ...leslie, what you said about blood leading to more blood is very true. Once you commit one murder then it seems to get easier to commit more. You will also have more ideas on how to kill people. its a little distrubing but true. <BR/><BR/>in macbeth's case it may go the other way though because Macbeth is not coping with the murders very easilyLaurenchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054801168706576090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-50442125942951228892007-09-25T12:38:00.001-06:002007-09-25T12:38:00.001-06:00Thank you all of you for the clarification. It di...Thank you all of you for the clarification. It did help!hannahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592505763451118754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-14049597739519311512007-09-25T12:38:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:38:00.000-06:00Hannah - The only reason I think Macbeth is contin...Hannah - The only reason I think Macbeth is continuing on his killing spree is because he lacks the will power and strength of character to do what he knows is right.morganwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430313351151318139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-18404321186435659212007-09-25T12:37:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:37:00.000-06:00Hannah, its probably some combination of the three...Hannah, its probably some combination of the three. He has power, and was insulting them, and giving them reasons to kill him. So it's probably not just one thing.ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-34455517879528877252007-09-25T12:36:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:36:00.000-06:00hannahl- Macbeth was putting the blame on Banquo. ...hannahl- Macbeth was putting the blame on Banquo. Macbeth was telling the murderers that Banquo was the one who made their lives a living hell. Then he says, are you guys so religious and angelic that you are just going to let this go?? He just wants to convince the murderers that they are killing for a reason. Also, Macbeth says that Banquo was the one who kept you from your riches in life. I hope this helps a little bit.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-18595855392432858122007-09-25T12:35:00.002-06:002007-09-25T12:35:00.002-06:00Hannah - I think it was a combination of those two...Hannah - I think it was a combination of those two as well as the murderers' ease of which they'll kill anybody. They don't really need many reasons to kill someone. Or at least that's how I interpret them.morganwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18430313351151318139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-34313190950165017612007-09-25T12:35:00.001-06:002007-09-25T12:35:00.001-06:00Hannah, I think that Macbeth was able to convince ...Hannah, I think that Macbeth was able to convince the murderers to kill Banquo and Fleance by filling their minds with the idea that their situation (being poor) was caused by Banquo. I think the murderers probably knew this wasn't true but they probably wanted someone to take the blame and wanted someone to suffer while knowing they themselves wouldn't be punished for itLaurenchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054801168706576090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-52124929588343882452007-09-25T12:35:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:35:00.000-06:00He realizes that blood has blood and yet he doesn'...He realizes that blood has blood and yet he doesn't stop killing. Why is he so inclined to stay on his path of carnage?hannahlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05592505763451118754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-23644187091660424462007-09-25T12:34:00.001-06:002007-09-25T12:34:00.001-06:00HEY!! Blood will cause more blood : the blood (or ...HEY!! Blood will cause more blood : the blood (or murder) of Duncan lead to the blood (") of Banquo which will lead to Fleance or Malcom or Donalbain reacting to that blood and killing Macbeth? hmm.leslielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10389957516533398675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4053873056775658406.post-92129755810913342782007-09-25T12:34:00.000-06:002007-09-25T12:34:00.000-06:00That is a really good point Laurenc. But, the Than...That is a really good point Laurenc. But, the Thane of Cawdor was a traitor and was bad. So not every single bad person is a woman, but that does seem pretty sensible.ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.com